On this edition of the Journal of Life Sciences podcast, we travel to the campus of Stanford University for a conversation on healthcare reform and income security featureing George Shultz and John Shoven. Shultz, professor of economics at Stanford Graduate School of Business and Distinguished Fellow at the Hoover Institution, and Shoven, professor of economics and director of the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, discuss the issues of their new book Putting Our House in Order: a Guide to Social Security and Health Care Reform. The healthcare economist Victor Fuchs moderates the discussion. The California Healthcare Institute hosted the April 29 event, which was sponsored by Fenwick & West.